Comments on: MT 3.0, cost, price, and goodwill http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/ Removing all doubt. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:16:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: lux http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/comment-page-1/#comment-13 lux Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/#comment-13 The issue is not price per se. It's value for price. Right now there is no compelling reason for the average user to upgrade except for the fact that if they don't do it now, it will cost more to upgrade in the future. Maybe you can get away with that if you're Microsoft, but not if you're a startup like SixApart. I would be quite willing to shell out $ for MT above and beyond what I have already paid *if* I had more information as to whether or not it's a step worth taking. Right now I don't have enough data to make a decision. As a former product manager, I understand very well the perils of going public with your feature roadmap. But given the depth of the PR hole that SixApart has dug for itself, they would do well to show some good faith to their users and be more forthcoming about what the future will hold for MT licensees. The issue is not price per se. It's value for price. Right now there is no compelling reason for the average user to upgrade except for the fact that if they don't do it now, it will cost more to upgrade in the future. Maybe you can get away with that if you're Microsoft, but not if you're a startup like SixApart.

I would be quite willing to shell out $ for MT above and beyond what I have already paid if I had more information as to whether or not it's a step worth taking. Right now I don't have enough data to make a decision.

As a former product manager, I understand very well the perils of going public with your feature roadmap. But given the depth of the PR hole that SixApart has dug for itself, they would do well to show some good faith to their users and be more forthcoming about what the future will hold for MT licensees.

]]> By: john http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/comment-page-1/#comment-14 john Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/#comment-14 Lux, I may not have made the "cost" versus "price" difference clear. "Cost", to me, is the license fee (in this case). "Price" is more like Total Cost of Ownership. Any TCO analysis has to take into account the potential costs of staying with the product, as well as migrating away from the product. MT 2.x's cost was free; it's price was around $20 (a bargain by anyone's measure). MT 3's cost to me is $70, and it's price is UNKNOWN (what's to stop them from charging a yearly subscription fee?). All that to say we're saying the same thing. Lux,
I may not have made the "cost" versus "price" difference clear. "Cost", to me, is the license fee (in this case). "Price" is more like Total Cost of Ownership. Any TCO analysis has to take into account the potential costs of staying with the product, as well as migrating away from the product.

MT 2.x's cost was free; it's price was around $20 (a bargain by anyone's measure). MT 3's cost to me is $70, and it's price is UNKNOWN (what's to stop them from charging a yearly subscription fee?).

All that to say we're saying the same thing.

]]> By: c u l t u r e k i t c h e n http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/comment-page-1/#comment-15 c u l t u r e k i t c h e n Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.gingerandjohn.com/archives/2004/05/16/mt-30-cost-price-and-goodwill/#comment-15 <strong>The Great Blogtercation of 2004 : Or on social networks and data mining</strong> Six Apart, the people that created Movable Type, the blogware that runs this here site, released the much anticipated MT 3.0 with a licensing agreement radically different from the ones they've ran up until version MT 2.661 ... and all hell broke loose... The Great Blogtercation of 2004 : Or on social networks and data mining
Six Apart, the people that created Movable Type, the blogware that runs this here site, released the much anticipated MT 3.0 with a licensing agreement radically different from the ones they've ran up until version MT 2.661 ... and all hell broke loose...

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